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Alex Dobrenko`'s avatar

dude I'm slowly making my way through these quotes...feels like eating a big plate of nachos for my brain.

on the idea of camaraderie, have you read stuff by Alfred Adler? I've not directly but via this book "The Courage to be Disliked" which is essentially a distillation of Adler, and a big thing he covers is understanding that other people are our comrades, not our competition. U might dig it

<Mary L. Tabor>'s avatar

I’m about to go on a bit and am not sure I’ll be convincing: forgive if you read on: I have ten books by Kundera on my favored book shelf above the desk where I write. Many of them are highlighted but the most highlights are in _Testaments Betrayed_. I once wrote a bunch of quotes I entitled “What Is Art”. Most quotes are from Kundera and William Gass.

I’ve been most disturbed by the assertion by some of Kundera’s misogyny. To view Kundera through that lens is not to understand what art is.

Your longer quote on “What the novel teaches us about morality” and that I quoted a portion of—was it yesterday or the day before?— disputes any such conclusion, e.g., misogyny. If we understand what art is, then no such conclusion can be made.

Here are Kundera and Gass to help me:

Kundera: “But the conformism of public opinion is a force that sets itself up as a tribunal, and the tribunal is not there to waste time over ideas, it is there to conduct the investigations for trials.”

Gass: “Why are works of art so socially important? Not for the messages they may contain, not because they expose slavery or cry hurrah for the worker, although such messages in their place and time might be important, but because they insist more than most on their reality; because of the absolute way in which they exist. ... So I don’t think that it’s the message of a work of art that gives it any lasting social value. On the contrary, insisting on this replaces the work with its interpretation, another way of robbing it of its reality. … Works of art are meant to be lived with and loved, and if we try to understand them, we should try to understand them as we try to understand anyone—in order to know them (italics on “them”) better, not in order to know something else.”

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